FAIRPORT, PAINESVILLE & EASTERN

DIESEL ROSTER

 

 

Here is a chart I created with data about each of the diesels the FP&E owned during its existence.  A key to the sources for this data is listed below the chart.  To see a picture of the locomotive, click on its road number.

 

ROAD
NUMBER

MAKE /
MODEL

SERIAL
NUMBER

BUILD /
SHIP DATE

ACQUIRED

PRIOR
OWNER

DISPOSITION

101
[A,1,2,3,4,5,6]

ALCo S-2
[1,2,3,4,5,6]

74336
[A,1,3,5,6]

10/10/1945
[A,1,2,3,4,5,6]

10/10/1945

None 

 Sold to Ohi-Rail in Jan 1985; [6,7,8,9]
 
currently still on railroad property. [10]

102
[A,1,2,3,4,5,6]

ALCo S-2
[1,2,3,4,5,6]

74482
[A,1,5,6]

6/20/1946
[A,1,2,3,4,5,6]

6/20/1946

None

 Sold to Ohi-Rail in Jan 1985; [6,7,8,9]
 
traded to Steam Railroad Museum in July 2009; [10]

 sold to Age of Steam Roundhouse on 10/15/2009. [11]

103
[A,1,2,3,4,5,6]

ALCo S-2
[1,2,3,4,5,6]

74798
[A,1,3,5,6]

9/30/1946
[A,1,2,3,4,5,6]

9/30/1946

None

 Sold to Ft. Howard Paper at Green Bay, WI

    in Oct 1978; [5,6,12,13]
 
repainted and renumbered 63-180 circa 1980; [13]
 
donated to National Railroad Museum on 9/23/2006. [14]

104
[A,1,2,3,4,5,6]

ALCo S-2
[1,2,3,4,5,6]

75387
[A,1,3,5,6]

9/30/1947
[A,2,3,4,5,6]

9/30/1947

None

 Sold to North Star Steel at Wilton, IA in Sept 1978; [6]
 
repainted sometime after 1980; [P1,P2]
 
sold to Scoular-Welsh Grain at Omaha, NE in 1984; [15,16]
 
sold to Consolidated Grain & Barge at Henning, IL
    in 1995;
[16,17]

 conveyed to Fall Grain when that firm purchased
    Henning facility from CG&B in 2002;
[18,19,20,21]
 
scrapped at Fall Grain in 2008. [21]

105
[A,1,2,3,4,5,6]

ALCo S-4
[1,2,3,4,5,6]

79225
[A,1,3,5,6]

10/22/1951
[A,1,2,3,4,5,6]

10/22/1951

None

 Sold to Indiana Hi-Rail in Jan 1985; [6,7,8]
 
sold to Cargill at Evansville, IN in 1989; [22,23]
 
repainted sometime after 1989; [P3,P4]
 
moved to Cargill at Cynthiana, IN in Feb 2000; [24,25,26]

 conveyed to JRB Grain when that firm purchased
    Cynthiana facility from Cargill in 2005;
[27,28]
 
scrapped at JRB Grain in Oct or Nov 2008. [28]

106
[2,3,4,5,6,7]

ALCo S-2
[2,4,5,6,7]

78015
[A,3,5,6,7]

6/19/1950
[A,2,3,4,5,6,7]

Feb 1968
[3,4,7]

NKP 44,
N&W 2044

[A,N,2,3,4,5,6,7]

 Cannibalized for parts since at least May 1978; [7]
 
sold to GE-Cleveland in May 1980 and subsequently
    converted to a mine motor.
[7]

107
[2,3,4,5,6,7,W]

ALCo S-2
[2,4,5,6,7,W]

78016
[A,3,5,6,7,W]

6/19/1950
[A,2,3,4,5,6,7,W]

Feb 1968
[3,4,7]

NKP 45,
N&W 2045

[A,N,2,3,4,5,6,7]

 Sold to AC&J in June 1984; [5,7]
 
currently still on railroad property. [W]

108
[3,4,5,6,7]

ALCo S-4
[3,4,5,6,7]

78710
[A,3,5,6,7]

3/28/1951
[A,3,4,5,6,7]

Apr 1971
[3,4,5]

NKP 59,
N&W 2059

[A,N,3,4,5,6,7]

 Sold to Indiana Hi-Rail in Jan 1985; [6,7,8]
 
sold to Cargill at Cincinnati, OH in 1990; [23,29,30]
 
removed from service in 1995; [31]
 
presumed scrapped.

 

 

 

Sources

 

A

ALCo-GE Locomotive List (ALCo document K-8823125)

N

N&W Locomotive Directory, 1964 (revised to 1969)

1

Extra 2200 South, Oct 1968

2

Railroad, Dec 1969

3

Extra 2200 South, #38 (Jan-Feb 1973)

4

Railroad, Oct 1977

5

The Short Line, #68 (Mar-Apr 1984, pub Aug 1984)

6

The Short Line, #75 (May-June 1985, pub Nov 1985)

7

Extra 2200 South, #87 (Apr-June 1988)

8

The Short Line, #71 (Sept-Oct 1984, pub Feb 1985)

9

The Short Line, #73 (Jan-Feb 1985, pub June 1985)

10

Bill Schnierle & Emerson Roth of Steam Railroad Museum, 2009 interviews

11

CantonRep.com (The Canton Repository), 10/15/2009

12

The Short Line, #38 (Mar-Apr 1979)

13

The Short Line, #45 (May-June 1980, pub Aug 1980)

14

Dan Litke, Curator at National Railroad Museum, 2009 interview

15

The Short Line, #70 (July-Aug 1984, pub Dec 1984)

16

Timothy F. Vana, railfan in Omaha, 2006 correspondence with Ron Stafford

17

The Short Line, #128 (Mar-Apr 1994, pub July 1995)

18

Surface Transportation Board, Docket AB-55 Sub 642X

19

Illinois Commerce Commission, Docket T06-0105

20

Locomotive Notes II, #253 (TRP #79: Oct/Nov/Dec 2008)

21

Ellen Walker, co-owner of Fall Grain, 2009 interview

22

The Short Line, #98 (Mar-Apr 1989, pub May 1989)

23

The Short Line, #104 (Mar-Apr 1990, pub Aug 1990)

24

Chris Brown, former employee of Evansville Terminal, 2009 internet forum post

25

Locomotive Notes II, #224 (TRP #57: Apr/May/June 2003)

26

Locomotive Notes II, #227 (TRP #59: Oct/Nov/Dec 2003)

27

Posey County Recorders Office

28

Jim Bender, owner of JRB Grain, 2009 interview

29

The Short Line, #105 (May-June 1990, pub Oct 1990)

30

Locomotive Notes II, #139 (October 1990)

31

Railpace, August 1995

P1

Photo of North Star Steel #104 with ex-FP&E patch job, 6/25/1980

P2

Photo of Scoular Grain unit (unnumbered) with ex-NSS patch job, 4/19/1985

P3

Photo of Cargill #105 with IHRC/ex-FP&E patch job, 5/28/1989

P4

Photo of Cargill #105 painted in Cargill scheme, 7/4/1997

W

Ashtabula, Carson & Jefferson Railroad website (www.acjrscenic.net)

 

 

 

Notes and Observations

 

       Most of the data in the table at the top of the page is explicitly stated in the sources listed immediately above.  However, in a couple of cases the data had to be inferred from the sources.  A case in point:  For units #101, #102, #105, and #108, I have established the sale date to Ohi-Rail (#101 & #102) and Indiana Hi-Rail (#105 & #108) by combining two sources: Source 7 states unit #108 was sold to Indiana Hi-Rail in Jan. 1985; source 8 reports that all four units were sold at the same time (which makes sense, because at the time Ohi-Rail and Indiana Hi-Rail had the same ownership).  Combining these two facts I have concluded that Jan. 1985 is the sale date for units #101, #102, and #105 even though there is no explicit mention of this date in any of the sources.

       I have seen one other diesel roster for the FP&E on the internet: on the "The Diesel Shop" website (located at http://www.thedieselshop.us/FP&E.HTML).  On that roster, there is a reference to unit #105 becoming RELCO #1053 before becoming IHRC #105.  I have found no evidence for this (in fact, some of the sources I have collected could be used to make a strong case against this).

During my research I've come across some materials that mention unit #104 was renumbered #2801 after North Star Steel purchased it.  On the photos I have obtained of the unit when it was owned by Scoular-Welsh, CG&B, and Fall Grain, it looks like when North Star Steel repainted the unit, they left it unnumbered.  Ron Stafford, a railfan who specializes in following ALCo switchers, sent me a message to help clear up where "2801" came from:  "As for the number '2801' ... it's in (or was in) small white lettering, perhaps three or four inches tall, just under the window to the left of the rear cab door. I've been stuck as to whether to term this as a renumbering or not. If the number were more prominent, there would be no doubt. This way, it's almost hidden, and may be there for other reasons."

       Two other pieces of information that I've come across during my research for which I have found no evidence to support are: 1) unit #104 was at some point used at North Star Steel's Monroe, MI plant, and 2) unit #108 was sold by Indiana Hi-Rail to Consolidated Grain & Barge's North Bend, OH facility.  Not only do the sources I have not support either of these pieces of information, but in addition, as with the RELCO case I mentioned above, I have found materials and sources that could be used to make strong arguments against them.

 

 

 

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Created by Scott Nixon

July 2009

Updated: September 2009